How do racial categories shape our identities and interactions in society? What does it mean to approach the concept of race with humility and critical thought? And can we truly imagine a world where xenophobia and racism no longer dictate our social structures?

Today’s guest is Dr. Ron Sundstrom, a philosophy professor at the University of San Francisco and a member of the university's African American Studies Program. He also serves as a humanities advisor for the SF Urban Film Festival. Dr. Sundstrom’s research delves into the philosophy of race, racism, and xenophobia, with a particular focus on political philosophy, urban policy, and the works of Frederick Douglass.

In this episode, Dr. Sundstrom explores the intricate ways racial categories influence our lives and the broader social structures we navigate. From dissecting the origins and functions of racialized identities to examining how they intersect with policies and cultural practices, we delve deep into the social construction of race and its enduring impact. Dr. Sundstrom shares his evolving perspective on race as a "socially unruly" category and argues for approaching these constructs with "epistemic humility."

We also tackle big-picture questions, such as what a post-racist society might look like and how deeply ingrained human tendencies like xenophobia shape our world. Dr. Sundstrom offers a nuanced critique of integration, assimilation, and the complex interplay between individual identity and societal belonging. This thought-provoking conversation invites us to rethink our assumptions about identity and humanity, encouraging empathy and respect as foundational values for a more inclusive society.